Curse

Puty Tangg · May 09, 2006, 12:28 PM // 12:28

There are other ways to kill Dopelganger particularly the Awaken the Blood skill + sacrifice spell. But these is a new way just in case you do not have the ATB spell. im not sure if there are similar post, im too lazy to search, but if there are... my sincere apologies to the authors.

i already tried these build 3 times succesfully. heres how it works.

you basically need 3 spells. but your main spell damage will be backfire.

Distribute your skill points to
1. Domination = max
2. Curses = leftover

Skills You need
1. backfire
2. Emphaty
3. Spiteful spirit

Just fill the other skill slots that are fast cast (pref with less than 1 sec cast time) with useless kill preferably those that are offensive spells(i chose offensive blood attributes)

Strategy
1. approach doppelganger close enough to malee range.
2. cast Backfire first then Emphaty then spiteful spirit. Your goal is to make self inflicting damage to him while he is under the Backfire spell.

The Emphaty and Spitefull Spirit are just in case that he attacks with malee you also deals damage to him.

With 12 Domination, Backfire will be dealing 119 damage per spell cast. If you chose spells that are cast less than 1 sec, you will deal damage faster than you can say bruguduybrugudungstungstuy.

With 11 curses, you will be dealing 50+ damage just in case he attempts to attack you with malee.

It will only take Dopelganger to cast 4 spells to kill himself.

I did not even bother attacking him with malee. Poor sucker killed himself.

Good luck.

shoot n loot · May 09, 2006, 12:32 PM // 12:32

laff with that u have to take dmg, ive found a way u can do ti at lvl 8 if u have sup curses on... just throw ss on him and hide behind a wall, he will keep attempting to attack and kill himself.. very entertaining... it may take a few times, cas one of my friends did the same and he kept running in for 2 or 3 matches, then it worked

Dwiea · May 09, 2006, 02:59 PM // 14:59

Somehow i managed to kill my dopple with necro / Rt by just using Vamp gaze / Vamp Bite / wallows bite and life syphon. But damn was it close and took me three tries to kill him.

ender6 · May 09, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58

@Tangg Yes indeed this method has been mentioned.

In addition, you can utilize illusion of weakness to help expedite the process and distortion (combined with kiting) to help lesson dmg taken.

Iori Shozu · May 09, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

I'm not sure if he still does but he used to spam blood is power till he would die if that was the only skill you carried.

Also if you back up you can dodge his arrows easily and only stop to recast when he does thats how i beat him with a lvl 8 mesmer using only empathy and pre armor.

-Six- · May 09, 2006, 06:43 PM // 18:43

If you have mes secondary, beating doppy is insanely easy...

max blood and domination

-put as many blood sac enchanments as you can into first 4 slots slots
-also take distortion, shatter enchantment, arcane echo, and empathy

if the sacing hasn't killed it...
use arcane echo to strip enchantments twice...
if it isn't dead by then cast empathy on doppy, when it attacks uses distortion or just dodge

Marth Reynolds · May 09, 2006, 08:11 PM // 20:11

or just kill him by casting Efeeble + Insidious Parasite on him.
Don't attack yourself and don't try to dodge his attacks :P
have fun!

Unchain · May 09, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

I beat him with N/W, Frenzy and Blood Renewal. Max Sword/Axe Mastery and just enough Tactics to use a shield. Just go hit him.

mikejustis · May 22, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Just fill your slots with health draining usless skills. You dont even have to do anything but shoot him with you wand

Stoneys Roc · May 25, 2006, 01:20 PM // 13:20

or if you have the rare combination or a necromancer/warrior put all your stats on hammer mastery take no skills and you'll stomp him in under 50 seconds ^_^

xenoranger · May 25, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03

no, there is an easier way to beat doppleganger

Awaken the Blood
Blood Ritual 17%
Blood is Power 33% {E} or Offering of Blood 20%
Defile Flesh 20%
Enfeebling Blood 10%
Signet of Agony 10% (+ bleeding)
Backfire
rez signet

Trust me, this is a much better build. The AI is dumb enough to sacrifice itself to death. And when you add backfire into the mix, it'll cast and hurt itself. I find that most players can use this N/Me build to beat doppleganger in 3 attempts or less. I've wagered money against it and never lost a bet yet.

Jetdoc · May 25, 2006, 03:31 PM // 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenoranger

no, there is an easier way to beat doppleganger

Blood Ritual 17%
Blood is Power 33% {E} .

These two only work on other allies, so the Dopple won't use them.

Again, all you need to do is equip sacrifice spells and the dopple will die within 10 seconds, guaranteed.

Pick Me · May 25, 2006, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Man,

1) Don't bother bringing Backfire - harms target if they cast spells. Guess what? You are casting spells.

2) Spiteful Spirit - what on earth are you talking about? You don't have Spiteful Spirit. You can't cap that until you reach Southern Shiverpeaks. What? You said you got to Droks from a runner? Then why on earth are you fighting your doppleganger then? Oh, you want your 15 attribute points.

Then yes, if you continue to work backwards sure, use spiteful spirit, or better yet why don't you use Aura of the Lich instead?

3) Use Empathy, Enfeeblement, Insidious Parasite and Price of Failure and Spirit of Failure. Just keep casting those every 10 seconds or so. You will gain energy for every miss, you do damage from Price of Failure and Empathy for every miss, the damage done to you is less than the health gained by Insidious Parasite. You stay at basically perfect health and he/she dies

4) Yes sacrificing spells works great, just don't use Blood Renwal:
Use the following:
Dark Fury
Awaken The Blood
Demonic Flesh
Defile Flesh
Enfeebling Blood
Blood Of The Master (doesn't need to have undead to work)
Illusionary Weakness
Rez Sig

xenoranger · May 26, 2006, 05:41 PM // 17:41

always forget dark fury.

As fro the BiP and BR... I just bring them anyway. Whether it'll use them or not is up to it.

Although I got a drok run, Offering of blood is great against dopple.

As for Dark Fury, Where do you get that? I didn't see it until Ember Light (I may have ignored it)

Ailee S · Jun 01, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Cultists Fervor {e} + Dark Fury + Order of Pain + some 1 second casts
makes him sacrifice 1651% his health ^^ (well, almost)

xenoranger · Jun 01, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ailee S

Cultists Fervor {e} + Dark Fury + Order of Pain + some 1 second casts
makes him sacrifice 1651% his health ^^ (well, almost)

Don't forget awaken the blood. If you hav eboth games, awaken adds another 50% to the sacrifice cost.

Awaken The Blood + Cultist Fever = 25.5% Sacrifice per spell (assuming dopple has blood of 12)

Turbobusa · Jun 01, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

bring that monk skill which doubles sacrifices... combined with atb it is just so powerfull against him

xenoranger · Jun 02, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Yea, but if you go N/Me, Backfire @ 12 kills faster
The AI will not only sacfrice to death, but also be punished for spells that require sacrifices.

I strongly recommend an N/Me build instead of N/Mo.

DragonFeast · Jul 01, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44

I don't know whats with people. But it's not hard to defeat Doppleganger.
Well atleast it's not hard for me, i never had a problem

Cherng Butter · Jul 01, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

awaken the blood
scourge sacrifice
veratas aura *

*I'm not sure if he would use this, but if he did it would be a 99% sacc

for a surefire way to win, use atb, scourge, cultists fervor, and some sacc spell